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Since my other topic is getting a lot of buzz about Venezuela I thought I should make a separate topic. I'm guessing Wachi will enjoy this topic a bit and he can help inform us on exactly what is going on. But this is a huge deal that needs to be dealt with and become noticed, it's truly sad how some people are living, dumpster diving and what not, the crime, and it goes on and on.

Can you imagine waiting in line for hours and hours at a time just to get some basic food for your family or yourself?

Caracas, Venezuela's capitol, is soon to be the worlds most violent city. Think about the United States or any other country without law enforcement for a second... People going crazy stealing your possessions and even people you know, kidnapping has been a huge issue.

The country bathes in oil, yet nobody can afford it. If you think about driving your car to work, think again. Most people walk and bike if it hasn't been stolen yet.

Wachi, and anyone else that lives or has lived in Venezuela, I'd like you to comment on this and inform everyone about exactly what you are experiencing.

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Lol, I didn't want to spam random Venezuela things in your thread, but I tried to do some comparison when you elect someone that really wants socialism.

You said like we were living in North Korea, LOL. Obviously we are in a hard situation, but we are not that "poor". I have a 2012 car, I can eat whatever I want, even I can do whatever I want, but that's because I was a middle class person back in 2012. These days, it's hard to do all the stuffs you want. The only way to do anything, is that you have a shit ton of dollars and sell 'em with the black market price.

These kind of people are a bunch of corrupt pigs. Maybe you're going to ask why, Dollars most likely tend to be sell by people that works in the government, so... Yeah, you know the rest.

Can you imagine waiting in line for hours and hours at a time just to get some basic food for your family or yourself?

True. In 2010 there was no lines nor anything, neither existed the "Bachaqueros" , right now, the society went into a total anarchy in this 6 years.

Caracas, Venezuela's capitol, is soon to be the worlds most violent city.

It is since 2015, lol. We were in the top 10 like... 8 years I think, but now, we are in the top 1 (yay...)

People going crazy stealing your possessions and even people you know, kidnapping has been a huge issue.

This is so common right now... If you have a shitty phone, they'll kill you. If you have nothing on you, they'll kill you. Even if you give all of your stuffs, you're probably getting killed too.

The country bathes in oil, yet nobody can afford it. If you think about driving your car to work, think again. Most people walk and bike if it hasn't been stolen yet.

That's a lie. We can afford it (I pay 46 Bolívares for 46 liters, that's like 0.04$ LOL), the problem right now, is to afford a car. Bicycles aren't that common to see like a daily drive. What you actually see, is people using the Bus or "Motorcycle Taxi" not like India, a normal Motorcycle, lol.

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I was just looking and holy ****.... Gas is literally 0.05USD a gallon over there. Government subsidizes and controls cost. That's like 50 times lower than here in USA. At least you got that going, lol

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I was just looking and holy ****.... Gas is literally 0.05USD a gallon over there. Government subsidizes and controls cost. That's like 50 times lower than here in USA. At least you got that going, lol

That's just now, they increased the cost of the gasoline a few months ago. Back then, you could full your tank with 0.01$, LOL. But that's old as fuck. Venezuela was one of the cheapest gas in the world, but now... It's a pain in the ass by maintain your car (You can barely find motor oil, filters, whatever you need and it's expensive as fuck too). When I got my car, I was busy and I never take care of my car, I just leave my car in Ford's services and that's it. Now, It's way expensive to pay a noob to do the maintenance of your car, so... I do all the job by myself.

Right now, we are doing the "Referendum Revocatorio" (Recall Referendum), we have 3 procedures to revoke this faggot.

  • Get 1% (About 195.000) of all the population's states and validate their signatures

  • Get 20% (About 4.000.000) of all the population's states and validate their signatures

  • Get 7.587.532 as minimum to revoke the fatass.

We are in the first procedure, and the C.N.E. are doing the impossible to avoid the recall referendum this year (If they do that, the vice-president will take the charge until 2019...), I tried to validate my signature and it's impossible, a shit ton of people are in line to do it as well, lol. I'll go on Friday, maybe at 04:00 so I can be the first one...

TL;DR If any of you are thinking in moving out to any Latin American country, DON'T DO IT.

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Apparently your country actually imports oil from USA, even though it has more oil reserve than any other country in the world. Easier/cheaper to refine. I guess that's also why we don't really buy it from you LOL. Venezuela-USA export 2008: $48B, 2014: $26M

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Apparently your country actually imports oil from USA, even though it has more oil reserve than any other country in the world. Easier/cheaper to refine. I guess that's also why we don't really buy it from you LOL. Venezuela-USA export 2008: $48B, 2014: $26M

That's because our crude is a heavy oil, It's way harder to produce gas from it. IDK what they do with this, lol. In terms of oil, I know a shit of it.

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Hmm, that must have been what I read.. It's harder to find something like motor oil and things like that, not the gasoline. My mistake.

I have no idea why the USA doesn't import some of the oil there, at least you guys would be receiving a good chunk of change from us and our prices would go down hopefully instead of keeping our eyes on the Middle East. I'd like to know a little bit more about your imports and exports as well Wachi, are you doing a lot of trading overseas and such? Are you importing anything from the United States or from anywhere else?

With automobiles it's pretty much the same thing here, it's getting worse and worse. The middle class can't afford to buy a $40,000 car along with all of the servicing and synthetic oil that it requires. Most people rely on older vehicles especially if you know how to work on them, I do all of my own work even when it comes to engine overhauling (rebuilding) along with the transmissions. Because I'm not paying $2,000 to have my transmission rebuilt or $3,000 for a brand new engine.. I'd rather buy the specific parts I need for a fraction of that price, but you have to know how to do it right. Anyway, that's beside the point, in my opinion the United States is on the brink of becoming just like Venezuela as well. Look at how much the grocery prices have gone up and the cost of living, yet the wages haven't been rising.\

To add to my point... I'm very old fashioned and I talk to a lot of older people that were my age back in the 1960's and '70's and in them days, the average person could afford to buy a new car every three to four years. This is why most of the cars that are found in fields and junk yards from that era only had 30k to 60k miles, which is unheard of. Yes they did require a lot more maintenance, but you're paying $30-$40,000 now compared to $1,200 for a Chevrolet Pickup back then brand new or a sedan/coupe for $2,500. It's outrageous. Companies no longer offer pensions or 401k's as they did back then too. Another question I'd like to ask you Wachi or anyone that knows, what were the steps that the country took to become so low? We know why it happened, but what major events happened for it to become as bad as it is now?

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